Torrey Wang, a Ph.D. candidate at Notre Dame, provides an invaluable and painstaking summary of Hume's landmark text. This is no Sparknotes crib: Wang is a specialist in Hume and his era, and his epitome is a reliable distillation of Hume's thought (and more pleasant to read than the original--that's a compliment to Wang, and certainly no slight to everyone's favorite Scottish 18th-century philosopher).
http://www3.nd.edu/~twang6/guides/HumeEnquiryNotes.pdf
Wednesday, February 27, 2013
Hume in Context of Earlier Philosophy
In this highly recommended powerpoint, "The Significance of David Hume," Dr. Peter Millican of Oxford's Hertford College succinctly sketches the early philosophical context against which Hume propounds his scepticist manifesto. Millican emphatically portrays Hume as "The Great Infidel," pointing to Hume's virulent polemics against Christianity. But, Millican goes on, Hume has a "Big Problem":
- "[According to Hume] Religious belief is founded on 'whimsies and prejudices' of the imagination.
- Science is founded on the instinctive, non-rational belief in uniformity.
- So what right has Hume to prefer "science" over "superstition?"
This is a topic on which Dr. Millican has written extensively; see his excellent website, davidhume.com, for further resources.
http://www.davidhume.org/papers/millican/2006%20Hume's%20Significance%20ppt.pdf
Monday, February 18, 2013
Aristotle's De Anima Books II and III Outline
Introduction to Philosophy
Instructor: James
Ransom
December 3, 2012
Aristotle,
De Anima Book II Outline
Chapter
One: Definition of Soul
412a3-11 Soul is the actual (entelechia)form of a natural body that
has life as its potency,
412a11-19 De minimus requirement for soul: composite
natural bodies w/ self-nutritive life
412a19-27 Soul is substance as form of a natural
body having life in potentiality
(dunamei) a19-21
412a27-b9 Soul is the first actuality (entelechia protei) of a natural body; of
an instrumental (organikou) body
412b9-413a10 Definition applies to a soul as it
subsists in an ensouled, living body
Chapter
Two: What is Life?
413a11-31 The ensouled is distinguished from the
nonensouled by living 413a20-22. Self-nutrition
is the litmus test.
413a31-b10 Nutritive capacity is the necessary
condition for mortal life; Perception,
the condition for animal life.
413b11-414a3 The nutritive, perceptive, intellective and
motive powers are unified and interrelated, yet distinct.
414a4-28 The soul is the cause by which the
animal engages in the life functions: living, perceiving, knowing etc.
Chapter
Three: How Powers of Soul are
Distributed and United in the Soul
414a29-b-19 Different classes of living beings
possess nutritive, perceptive, desiderative, motive, intellective powers
414b20-415a13 There is a strict sequence of
powers of soul with calculation and thought least widely shared
Chapter
Four: The Nutritive Faculty: Its Object and Subfaculties
415a14-22 The nutritive capacity in all its
operations saves (safeguards, preserves) the living thing.
415a22-b7 The nutritive faculty includes
reproduction. Cf Plato, Symp. 207d1,
“mortal nature seeks to be immortal”
415b8-416a18 The soul is the cause and principle
of the living body. 3 ways: As mover, as end, and as substance (form).
416a18-b9 Food is changed qualitatively (i.e.
digested) by the body being fed, rather than the reverse.
416b9-31 (1) what is being fed? is the ensouled
body. (2) Fed by what? food. (3) What feeds it ? the nutritive soul
Chapter
Five: Perception and Alteration; Kinds
of Knowledge; Potentiality and Actuality
416b32-417a20 Perception is a case of being
moved and being acted upon. Perception
is alteration.
417a21-b16 A person may lack knowledge entirely,
have knowledge without using it, or employ the knowledge possessed.
417b16-27 A person may think whenever he likes,
but to perceive it is necessary that there be the sensible object.
417b28-418a6 In a sense a child is “capable of
serving as a military general, “ in another sense not.
Chapter
Six: The Three Sorts of Sensible Objects:
Two Sensible in Virtue of Themselves, One by Accident
418a7-16 Two sorts are sensible virtue of
themselves: proper [to vision, hearing,
taste, etc.] and common. 1 sort by accident
418a16-20 Common sensibles include motion, rest,
number, figure, magnitude [unity, roughness, sharpness…]
418a20-25 Accidental: e.g., when perceiving sweet honey by sight,
its sweetness only accidentally perceivable by sight
Chapter
Seven: Vision, Medium and Object
Chapter
Eight: Hearing, Sound and Voice
Chapter
Nine: Smell and Odor
Chapter
Ten: Taste is a Contact Sense; the Tasteable
Chapter
Eleven: Touch and the Tangibles
422b17-34 Unlike the other senses, touch is a
contact sense. Aporia: multiple senses
of touch? Answer: No
422b34-423a21 Taste and touch are
distinguishable: tongue serves for perceiving flavors, rest of flesh cannot
423a21-b26 Sight perceives the invisible as well
as the visible; touch the intangible as well as the tangible.
423b26-424a10 The sense organ of touch is
capable of touching tangibles and is that organ in which the sense of touch
inheres
Chapter
Twelve: Perception is Reception of Form Without Matter
424a17-24 A sense is that which is receptive of
the sensible forms without the matter. Wax receives seal, not the signet
424824-b18 Extremes of sensible objects destroy
the sense organ, e.g., damage caused to musical instrument by banging it
Introduction to
Philosophy
Instructor: James Ransom
December 5, 2012
Aristotle,
De Anima Book III Outline
Chapter One: In the World as It Is There Can Be but the
Five Senses
424b22-425a13 We have a
complete set of senses and sense organs for all available sensible objects.
425a14-30 Awareness of
common sensibles derives from motion of bodies outside the percipient animal
425a30-b3 Because senses
are connected as central sense faculty, they can perceive objects of other
senses accidentally
425b4-11 To discriminate the various sensibles, there
must be more than one sense, but no more nor less than exactly five
Chapter Two:
Sense Joins in a Common Power so that the Five Senses Are Subfaculties
of A Central Sense Faculty
425b12-25 Through
perception, senses become aware of themselves and we become aware that we
perceive
425b25-426a27 Actuality of
the object of perception and of the sense are identical but their being is not
identical
Chapter Three:
Distinguishing Sense and Thought; What is Phantasia?
427a17-b6 Perceiving and
understanding not identical; for all animals have a share of perception, but
few of understanding
427b6-16 Sense of proper
sensibles is always true, while thought (noein)
can be false or true. Phantasia distinct from both.
427b16-26 Supposition
(e.g., reliance on received wisdom, doubts, informal hypotheses) distinct from
both noein and phantasia
427b27-428b9 Phantasia is presentation occurring when
things appear not currently being perceived, and illusory perception
428b10-429a9 Phantasia is motion of a sort caused by
the actuality of sense perception
Chapter Four:
What is Mind as That Capable of Thinking All Things
429a10-13 Intellect is a
capacity that humans seem the lowest level of living being to possess
429a13-b9 While sense
perceives perceptible things, mind thinks all
things (panta noein)
429b10-22 Mind, like
sense, is receptive to objects but surpasses sense in impassibility and
separateness
429b22-430a9 Mind like
tablet in which nothing is written in
actuality but there for may be written on in potentiality (tabula rasa)
Chapter Five:
What Enables Thinking to Occur
430a10-25 The illumined mind has only to act within
itself to give rise to thinking. The
separable mind is immortal
Chapter Six:
The Sorts of Intelligible Objects
Chapter Seven:
Phantasia Has a Role in All Thinking
Chapter Eight:
That Mind Can Think All Things
Chapter Nine:
There is a Capacity for Progressive Motion
Chapter Ten:
The Desiderative Capacity is the Primary Cause of Progressive Motion
433a9-30 Both desire and mind move animals, but
primarily desire
433a30-b27 Even though desires may be contrary to each
other, the desiderative capacity that moves the animal is unified
433b27-30 In order to have desire, the animal requires
some cognition (phantasia) to provide
it its object
Chapter Eleven:
Even Simple Animals Have Phantasia; Calculative Phantasia Fits the
Account of Progressive Motion
433b31-434a5 The incomplete animals possess phantasia appropriate to their sort of
motion
434a5-15 The beasts all have sensitive phantasia, but deliberative phantasia belong only to animals
possessing reason
Chapter Twelve:
The Necessary Order of the Faculties of Soul
Chapter Thirteen:
The Sort of Body Requisite to Support the Order of the Faculties of Soul
Anselm's Ontological Argument and Its Critics
Introduction to Philosophy
Instructor: James
Ransom
December 17, 2012
Anselm: The Ontological Argument for God’s Existence
St. Anselm, the Catholic
archbishop of Canterbury and a Doctor of the Church, first formulated the
Ontological Argument in 1078 A.D., in his work the Proslogion. The proof is most notable because it alone claims to
prove the existence of God by relying independently on human reason without the
need for perception or evidence. The proof itself relies on the defined concept
of God as a perfect being. St. Anselm’s proof is summarized here:
1.
God
exists in our understanding. This means that the concept of God resides as an
idea in our minds.
2.
God is a
possible being, and might exist in reality.
3.
If something
exists exclusively in our understanding and might have existed in reality then
it might have been greater. Something that is only a concept in our minds could
be greater by actually existing.
4.
Suppose
(theoretically) that God only exists in our understanding and not in reality.
5.
If this
were true, then it would be possible for God to be greater then he is (follows
from premise #3).
6.
This
would mean that God is a being in which a greater is possible.
7.
(6) is
absurd because God is by definition a being in which none greater is possible.
Herein lies the contradiction.
8.
Thus it
follows that it is false for God to only exist in our understanding.
9.
Hence God
exists in reality as well as our understanding.
ASSIGNMENT FOR
TUESDAY, DECEMBER 17
BENEDICT: Present 5-minute
oral argument ADVOCATING Anselm’s
Ontological Argument (“AOG”)
BRENDAN: Present
5-minute oral argument REBUTTING
AOG
LOUIS:
Expose deficiencies in Brendan’s rebuttal and present a CONCLUDING ARGUMENT for AOG
LUCIAN:
Rehabilitate Brendan’s critique and present a CONCLUDING ARGUMENT against
AOG
CRITIQUES AND DEFENSES
OF AOG
CRITICS OF AOG
|
CRITIQUE
|
Gaunilo of Marmoutiers (1)
|
Think of a perfect island.
According to Anselm’s proof, this island must exist, because a perfect
island in reality is superior to a perfect island only in thought. Reductio ad absurdum argument
|
Gaunilo of Marmoutiers (2)
|
God cannot be fully conceived because his nature is
inexhaustible. Therefore, if humans
cannot fully conceive of God, AOG cannot work
|
St. Thomas Aquinas
|
Echoed Gaunilo (2). ST 1aQ2
|
David Hume
|
Whatever we can conceive as existent, we can also conceive as
non-existent. Dialogues Concerning
Natural Religion (1776)
|
Immanuel Kant
|
Necessary propositions regarding a being are only necessarily true if
the being exists; for example, a triangle must have 3 angles only if
the triangle exists. Critique of
Pure Reason (1787)
|
Bertrand Russell
|
“The argument does not, to a modern mind, seem
very convincing, but it is easier to feel convinced that it must be
fallacious than it is to find out precisely where the fallacy
lies." History of Western Philosophy
(1972)
|
Richard Dawkins
|
"The very idea that such grand conclusions
should follow from such logomachist trickery offends me aesthetically…[I feel
a] "deep suspicion of any line of reasoning that reached such a
significant conclusion without feeding in a single piece of data from the
real world." The God Delusion
|
DEFENDERS OF AOG
|
DEFENSE
|
Rene Descartes
|
The concept of God is that of a supremely
perfect being, holding all perfections. Existence is a perfection: it would
be more perfect to exist than not to exist. Thus, if the notion of God did
not include existence, it would not be supremely perfect, as it would be
lacking a perfection. Consequently, the notion of a supremely perfect God who
does not exist, is unintelligible.
Therefore, according to his nature, God must exist. Fifth Meditation (1641)
|
Mulla Sadra
|
God by definition is perfection in existence.
Existence is reality. Reality is
graded on a scale of perfection. That
scale must have a limit, a point of greatest intensity of existence. That point is God. Hence God exists. Argument
of the Righteous (c. 1610)
|
Kurt Gödel
|
X is God-like if and only if X has as essential
properties those and only those properties which are positive (i.e., not
privative). If a property is positive,
its negation is not positive. The
property of being God-like is positive.
Necessary existence is positive. If a property is positive, then it is
consistent [with actual existence].
The property of being God-like is consistent. Therefore, existence is
an essence of that thing. Therefore,
God exists. Posthumous Papers (probably composed c. 1941)
|
Sunday, February 17, 2013
Preparation for Tuesday, February 19th Class Session
Introduction to Philosophy
Instructor: James Ransom
February 17, 2013
Instructor: James Ransom
February 17, 2013
Preparation for 2/19 Class Session:
Descartes: "Cogito Ergo Sum"
1. As background, Read Kenny, Rise of Modern Philosophy pp. 33-41, 119-127
2. Read Descartes, Meditations on First Philosophy, Meditations One and Two
3. Review the study guide for Meditations One and Two at: http://www.philosophyideas.com/files/descartes/Study%20Guide%20for%20Descartes.pdf
Bellarmine's Letter to Foscarini
Introduction to Philosophy
Instructor: James
Ransom
February 8, 2013
Galileo
Controversy
St. Robert
Bellarmine: Letter on Galileo’s Theories
(1615)
Fordham
University
Modern
History Sourcebook:
Robert Bellarmine: Letter on Galileo's Theories, 1615
Robert Bellarmine: Letter on Galileo's Theories, 1615
Galileo's letter of 1614
to the Grand Duchess Christina Duchess of Tuscany was not widely known, and was
ignored by Church authorities. When a year later the Carmelite provincial Paolo
Foscarini supported Galileo publicly by attempting to prove that the new theory
was not opposed to Scripture, Cardinal Robert Bellarmine, as "Master of
Controversial Questions," responded.
On April 12, 1615 the
saint wrote to Foscarini:
"I have gladly read the letter in Italian and the treatise
which Your Reverence sent me, and I thank you for both. And I confess that both
are filled with ingenuity and learning, and since you ask for my opinion, I
will give it to you very briefly, as you have little time for reading and I for
writing:
"First. I say that it seems to me that Your Reverence and
Galileo did prudently to content yourself with speaking hypothetically, and not
absolutely, as I have always believed that Copernicus spoke. For to say that,
assuming the earth moves and the sun stands still, all the appearances are saved
better than with eccentrics and epicycles, is to speak well; there is no danger
in this, and it is sufficient for mathematicians. But to want to affirm that
the sun really is fixed in the center of the heavens and only revolves around
itself (i. e., turns upon its axis ) without traveling from east to west, and
that the earth is situated in the third sphere and revolves with great speed
around the sun, is a very dangerous thing, not only by irritating all the
philosophers and scholastic theologians, but also by injuring our holy faith
and rendering the Holy Scriptures false. For Your Reverence has demonstrated
many ways of explaining Holy Scripture, but you have not applied them in
particular, and without a doubt you would have found it most difficult if you
had attempted to explain all the passages which you yourself have cited.
"Second. I say that, as you know, the Council [of Trent]
prohibits expounding the Scriptures contrary to the common agreement of the
holy Fathers. And if Your Reverence would read not only the Fathers but also
the commentaries of modern writers on Genesis, Psalms, Ecclesiastes and Josue,
you would find that all agree in explaining literally (ad litteram) that the
sun is in the heavens and moves swiftly around the earth, and that the earth is
far from the heavens and stands immobile in the center of the universe. Now
consider whether in all prudence the Church could encourage giving to Scripture
a sense contrary to the holy Fathers and all the Latin and Greek commentators.
Nor may it be answered that this is not a matter of faith, for if it is not a
matter of faith from the point of view of the subject matter, it is on the part
of the ones who have spoken. It would be just as heretical to deny that Abraham
had two sons and Jacob twelve, as it would be to deny the virgin birth of
Christ, for both are declared by the Holy Ghost through the mouths of the
prophets and apostles.
"Third. I say that if there were a true demonstration that
the sun was in the center of the universe and the earth in the third sphere,
and that the sun did not travel around the earth but the earth circled the sun,
then it would be necessary to proceed with great caution in explaining the
passages of Scripture which seemed contrary, and we would rather have to say that
we did not understand them than to say that something was false which has been
demonstrated.But I do not believe that there is any such demonstration; none
has been shown to me. It is not the same thing to show that the appearances are
saved by assuming that the sun really is in the center and the earth in the
heavens. I believe that the first demonstration might exist, but I have grave
doubts about the second, and in a case of doubt, one may not depart from the
Scriptures as explained by the holy Fathers. I add that the words ' the sun
also riseth and the sun goeth down, and hasteneth to the place where he
ariseth, etc.' were those of Solomon, who not only spoke by divine inspiration
but was a man wise above all others and most learned in human sciences and in
the knowledge of all created things, and his wisdom was from God. Thus it is
not too likely that he would affirm something which was contrary to a truth
either already demonstrated, or likely to be demonstrated. And if you tell me
that Solomon spoke only according to the appearances, and that it seems to us
that the sun goes around when actually it is the earth which moves, as it seems
to one on a ship that the beach moves away from the ship, I shall answer that
one who departs from the beach, though it looks to him as though the beach
moves away, he knows that he is in error and corrects it, seeing clearly that
the ship moves and not the beach. But with regard to the sun and the earth, no
wise man is needed to correct the error, since he clearly experiences that the
earth stands still and that his eye is not deceived when it judges that the
moon and stars move. And that is enough for the present. I salute Your
Reverence and ask God to grant you every happiness."
Action by the Congregation of the Index
In 1616 the Congregation of the Index -- founded by St. Pius V in
1571 and now headed by Cardinal Bellarmine acting in the name of Paul V -- was
forced to take action, based on the findings of consultors to the Holy Office.
Without naming Galileo, it banned all writings which treated of Copernicanism
as anything but an unproven hypothesis,
"because it has come to the attention of this Congregation
that the Pythagorean doctrine which is false and contrary to Holy Scripture,
which teaches the motion of the earth and the immobility of the sun, and which
is taught by Nicholas Copernicus in De Revolutionibus Orbium Caelestium and by
Diego de Zuniga's On Job, is now being spread and accepted by many - as may be
seen from a letter of a Carmelite Father entitled 'Letter of the Rev. Father
Paolo Antonio Foscarini, Carmelite, on the Opinion of the Pythagoreans and of
Copernicus concerning the Motion of the Earth and the Stability of the Sun, and
the New Pythagorean System of the World,' printed in Naples by Lazzaro Scoriggio
in 1615: in which the said Father tries to show that the doctrine of the
immobility of the sun in the center of the world, and that of the earth's
motion, is consonant with truth and is not opposed to Holy Scripture.
"Therefore, so that this opinion may not spread any further
to the prejudice of Catholic truth, it ( the Sacred Congregation ) decrees that
the said Nicholas Copernicus' De Revolutionibus Orbium, and Diego de Zuniga's
On Job, be suspended until corrected; but that the book of the Carmelite
Father, Paolo Foscarini, be prohibited and condemned, and that all other books
likewise, in which the same is taught, be prohibited."
This text is part of the Internet Modern
History Sourcebook. The Sourcebook is a collection of public
domain and copy-permitted texts for introductory level classes in modern
European and World history.
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is granted for electronic copying, distribution in print form for educational
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First Semester Draft Syllabus
St. Thomas Becket Academy
Introduction to
Philosophy: Draft Generic Reading List
2012-2013
Academic Year
Instructor: James Ransom
FIRST
SEMESTER: PLATO, ARISTOTLE AND AQUINAS
FALL QUARTER: PRE-SOCRATIC
PHILOSOPHERS AND PLATO
WEEK
1
|
TOPIC
|
READING (PREPARE BEFORE CLASS)
|
T
|
Syllabus and
Introduction
Thales
|
“Thales,” in Robin Waterfield, The First Philosophers: The Pre-Socratics and Sophists,
(“Waterfield”) 11-13
|
Th
|
Pre-Socratic
Philosophy
|
Jacques Maritain,
Introduction to Philosophy (Sheed
& Ward) (“Maritain”) 21-33
Waterfield,
“Heraclitus of Ephesus” 32-46
|
WEEK
2
|
|
|
T
|
Pre-Socratic
Philosophy
Zeno
|
Waterfield, “Zeno
of Elea,”
69-80
|
Th
|
Pre-Socratic
Philosophy
Parmenides
|
Waterfield, “Parmenides
of Elea,” 49-66
|
WEEK
3
|
|
|
T
|
Plato: Definition of Piety
|
Euthyphro, in Stephen M. Cahn, Classics of Western Philosophy (“CWP”)
20-25
|
Th
|
Plato: The Charges Against Socrates
|
Euthyphro, 26-28
Apology, CWP 29-32
|
WEEK
4
|
|
|
T
|
Plato: Immortality of the Soul
|
Phaedo
CWP 49-54
|
Th
|
|
|
WEEK
5
|
|
|
T
|
Plato: Justice
|
Republic
Book I,
CWP 119-124
|
Th
|
Plato: The Just Man. The Just City.
|
Republic
Book II,
CWP 136-140
|
WEEK
6
|
|
|
T
|
Plato: Education of the Guardians
|
Republic
III,
CWP 141-143
Republic
IV,
CWP 151-154
|
Th
|
Plato: The Philosopher King
|
Republic V-VI,
CWP 154-160
|
WEEK
7
|
|
|
T
|
Plato: Image of the Cave
|
Republic
VII-VIII,
CWP 160-164
|
Th
|
Plato: Tyranny
|
Republic
IX
CWP 164-168
|
WEEK
8
|
|
|
T
|
Epicureanism
|
Epicurus, Letter
to Menoeceus
CWP 315-317
|
Th
|
Stoicism:
Epictetus
|
Encheiridion
CWP 323-326
|
WEEK
9
|
|
|
T
|
Scepticism:
Sextus Empiricus
|
CWP 337-341
|
Th
|
Neo-Platonism
|
Plotinus, Enneads
CWP 388-391
|
WEEK
10
|
|
|
T
|
Review
|
|
Th
|
Final Examination
|
|
St. Thomas Becket Academy
Introduction to
Philosophy: 2012-2013 Academic Year
Instructor: James Ransom
FIRST
SEMESTER: PLATO, ARISTOTLE AND AQUINAS
WINTER
QUARTER: ARISTOTLE AND AQUINAS
WEEK
1
|
TOPIC
|
READING
(PREPARE BEFORE CLASS)
|
T 11/13
|
Aristotle: Politics
|
Politics
Book I
|
Th 11/15
|
Aristotle: Politics
|
Politics Book II
|
WEEK
2
|
|
|
T 11/20
|
Aristotle: Politics
|
Politics Book III
|
Th 11/22
|
NO SCHOOL
|
|
WEEK
3
|
|
|
T 11/27
|
Aristotle: Politics
|
Politics Book IV
|
Th 11/29
|
Aristotle: The Soul
|
De
Anima Book I
|
WEEK
4
|
|
|
T 12/4
|
Aristotle: The Soul
|
De
Anima Book II
|
Th 12/6
|
Aristotle: The Soul
Introduction to
Aquinas
|
De
Anima Book III
Peter Kreeft,
ed., Summa of the Summa (“ST”)
Introduction
11-22
Aquinas’ Prologue
33-34
|
WEEK
5
|
|
|
T 12/11
|
Aquinas:
Selections from Summa Theologiae
|
ST I, 1
The Nature and
Domain of Sacred Doctrine
Articles 1-10
Kreeft 35-50
|
Th 12/13
|
Aquinas: Selections from Summa Theologiae
|
ST I, 2
Proofs for the
Existence of God
Kreeft 53-70
Anselm: Proofs for Existence of God
Proslogion
(handout)
|
WEEK
6
|
|
|
T 12/18
|
Aquinas: Selections from Summa Theologiae
|
ST I, 3-26
The Nature of God
Kreeft 73-81,
113-122
|
Th 12/20
|
Aquinas: Selections from Summa Theologiae
|
ST I, 3-26, cont.
The Nature of God
Kreeft 154-163,
168-179
|
WEEK
7
|
|
|
T 1/8
|
Aquinas: Selections from Summa Theologiae
|
ST I, 44-49
Cosmology
Kreeft 189-218
|
Th 1/10
|
Aquinas: Selections from Summa Theologiae
|
ST I, 75-78
Anthropology
Kreeft 241-267
|
WEEK
8
|
|
|
T 1/15
|
Aquinas: Selections from Summa Theologiae
|
ST I-II, 18-21
Ethics: Good and Evil
Kreeft 414-432
|
Th 1/17
|
Aquinas: Selections from Summa Theologiae
|
ST I-II, 71-89
Ethics: Vices
Kreeft 479-500
|
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